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		<title>By: How-To: Influence Influencers- Bloggers, Tweeters &#38; Others</title>
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		<description>[...] How to Keep Bloggers from Hating You From IdeasOnIdeas: Nice list of tips on how you can build links with people who blog without practices the bad behaviors that might alienate them from &#8220;taking the time to get to know those you contact&#8221; to &#8220;respecting people&#8217;s choices even if they say no&#8221; to &#8220;thanking people who take the time to write something on your behalf&#8221; and more. [...]</description>
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[...] How to Keep Bloggers from Hating You From IdeasOnIdeas: Nice list of tips on how you can build links with people who blog without practices the bad behaviors that might alienate them from &#8220;taking the time to get to know those you contact&#8221; to &#8220;respecting people&#8217;s choices even if they say no&#8221; to &#8220;thanking people who take the time to write something on your behalf&#8221; and more. [...]</p>
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		<dc:creator>March 16 Kicks Off Buzz Cooperative&#8217;s Better Buzz Week &#124; Jessica Knows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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[...] How to keep bloggers from hating you (ideasonideas.com)     Share the Joy, Spread the Love: [...]</p>
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		<description>[...] How to keep bloggers from hating you&#8220;Every week I receive a handful of emails from PR firms, wanting me to write about something theyâ€™re helping promote. I rarely do so for them, but itâ€™s not that I wouldnâ€™t. Itâ€™s just that their tactics suck. They sell their clients on the notion of â€œblogger relationsâ€ but in fact, theyâ€™re treating email like a fax machine. They send the same generic message out to a ton of bloggers, piss everyone off in the process, and then bill their client for doing so. (Nice.)&#8221; [...]</description>
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[...] How to keep bloggers from hating you&#8220;Every week I receive a handful of emails from PR firms, wanting me to write about something theyâ€™re helping promote. I rarely do so for them, but itâ€™s not that I wouldnâ€™t. Itâ€™s just that their tactics suck. They sell their clients on the notion of â€œblogger relationsâ€ but in fact, theyâ€™re treating email like a fax machine. They send the same generic message out to a ton of bloggers, piss everyone off in the process, and then bill their client for doing so. (Nice.)&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: david Macnamara</title>
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		<dc:creator>david Macnamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hardest thing I find about building these relations is that there isn&#039;t any thought put into the products/services/stories that are being sold. My previosu job had me working on 3 different products completely unrelated to each other and just expected coverage in the same outlets. 

I agree with what cybele said 5 posts up too.</description>
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hardest thing I find about building these relations is that there isn't any thought put into the products/services/stories that are being sold. My previosu job had me working on 3 different products completely unrelated to each other and just expected coverage in the same outlets. <br />
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I agree with what cybele said 5 posts up too.</p>
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		<title>By: Here&#8217;s Why PR Spam Won&#8217;t Stop Anytime Soon &#171; David Mullen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Here&#8217;s Why PR Spam Won&#8217;t Stop Anytime Soon &#171; David Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 05:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and bloggers share their disdain for PR spam regularly. Many PR pros write blog posts telling their colleagues why they should stop [...]</description>
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[...] and bloggers share their disdain for PR spam regularly. Many PR pros write blog posts telling their colleagues why they should stop [...]</p>
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		<title>By: yani</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, I think alot of the principles you mentioned can be applied to life in general.</description>
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Great article, I think alot of the principles you mentioned can be applied to life in general.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Keeney, APR</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Keeney, APR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PR is all about relationships, so none of this should be foreign. There are plenty of PR people who continue to embrace unfortunate and outdated practices as you&#039;ve described. At the same time, there is relatively little understanding of the role PR plays in seeding and cultivating ideas that ultimately end up in blogs and mainstream media. I suspect you don&#039;t think you&#039;ve been influenced by PR, but there are PR forces that are working to advance virtually every issue and idea. Just pulling three relatively random posts, you wrote about Detroit, Twitter and the real estate market. The PR community is/was heavily involved in shaping the dialogue about each of those issues and may have helped to shape your understanding or perceptions of the issues in ways you may not fully be aware of. So I agree with you completely that blindly extending to bloggers the failed tactics used to reach mainstream media in past decades is doomed to failure. But I also suggest that PR plays a greater role in shaping attitudes and opinions -- and encouraging blogger content -- than is generally understood or acknowledged by the bloggers themselves.</description>
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PR is all about relationships, so none of this should be foreign. There are plenty of PR people who continue to embrace unfortunate and outdated practices as you've described. At the same time, there is relatively little understanding of the role PR plays in seeding and cultivating ideas that ultimately end up in blogs and mainstream media. I suspect you don't think you've been influenced by PR, but there are PR forces that are working to advance virtually every issue and idea. Just pulling three relatively random posts, you wrote about Detroit, Twitter and the real estate market. The PR community is/was heavily involved in shaping the dialogue about each of those issues and may have helped to shape your understanding or perceptions of the issues in ways you may not fully be aware of. So I agree with you completely that blindly extending to bloggers the failed tactics used to reach mainstream media in past decades is doomed to failure. But I also suggest that PR plays a greater role in shaping attitudes and opinions -- and encouraging blogger content -- than is generally understood or acknowledged by the bloggers themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: cybele</title>
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		<dc:creator>cybele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve become more and more crabby about PR folks lately. 

First, I don&#039;t mind press releases. I don&#039;t need to be addressed by name. However, they should be relevant. I am not interested in the latest video series on weight loss or hotel recommendations in San Francisco. It&#039;s not hard to figure out what I am interested in. These are not hard things to find out and tag in a contact database.

I resent, really, really resent, being put on &quot;lists&quot; like newsletters. I&#039;ve never been subscribed to one that was remotely relevant. 

As for your suggestion for PR folks to thank bloggers for writing ... I don&#039;t like to be &quot;thanked&quot; because it sounds like I&#039;m doing them a favor. If they sent me something I chose to write about, you know what? I owe them the thanks. If it goes the other way around, then I&#039;m just a tool. 

I can&#039;t stand PR folks who &quot;check back&quot; and want to know my response to something that was irrelevant. 

I can&#039;t stand PR folks who ignore my follow up emails and then email me asking if I have everything I needed to write that post about them!

I&#039;m not keen on educating others on how to do their jobs, but I have been telling off some PR folks. The results are interesting. I&#039;ve learned a lot about their relations with the public and have a lot better sense of who I might hire ... or at least a list of who I&#039;d never hire.</description>
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I've become more and more crabby about PR folks lately. <br />
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First, I don't mind press releases. I don't need to be addressed by name. However, they should be relevant. I am not interested in the latest video series on weight loss or hotel recommendations in San Francisco. It's not hard to figure out what I am interested in. These are not hard things to find out and tag in a contact database.<br />
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I resent, really, really resent, being put on "lists" like newsletters. I've never been subscribed to one that was remotely relevant. <br />
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As for your suggestion for PR folks to thank bloggers for writing ... I don't like to be "thanked" because it sounds like I'm doing them a favor. If they sent me something I chose to write about, you know what? I owe them the thanks. If it goes the other way around, then I'm just a tool. <br />
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I can't stand PR folks who "check back" and want to know my response to something that was irrelevant. <br />
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I can't stand PR folks who ignore my follow up emails and then email me asking if I have everything I needed to write that post about them!<br />
<br />
I'm not keen on educating others on how to do their jobs, but I have been telling off some PR folks. The results are interesting. I've learned a lot about their relations with the public and have a lot better sense of who I might hire ... or at least a list of who I'd never hire.</p>
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