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	<title>Comments on: Hey Google! Where&#8217;d you get that logo?</title>
	<link>http://www.ideasonideas.com/2007/10/google-logo/</link>
	<description>Eric Karjaluoto discusses design, brands and experience</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: When logos look alike &#124; Logo Design Love</title>
		<link>http://www.ideasonideas.com/2007/10/google-logo/#comment-33748</link>
		<dc:creator>When logos look alike &#124; Logo Design Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ideasonideas.com/2007/10/google-logo/#comment-33748</guid>
		<description>[...] Hey Google! Where&#8217;d you get that logo? On ideasonideas. [...]</description>
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[...] Hey Google! Where&#8217;d you get that logo? On ideasonideas. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Stuart</title>
		<link>http://www.ideasonideas.com/2007/10/google-logo/#comment-11645</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ideasonideas.com/2007/10/google-logo/#comment-11645</guid>
		<description>amazing.  you guys are good at finding crooks.  fuck them, but you should be very flattered.

keep it up, the copy is never as good as the original, even if it is google.

-A</description>
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amazing.  you guys are good at finding crooks.  fuck them, but you should be very flattered.<br />
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keep it up, the copy is never as good as the original, even if it is google.<br />
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		<title>By: Daniel Schutzsmith</title>
		<link>http://www.ideasonideas.com/2007/10/google-logo/#comment-9654</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Schutzsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ideasonideas.com/2007/10/google-logo/#comment-9654</guid>
		<description>I agree with Jon, nothing gets under my skin more than when a designers website says something like they are extremely "ethical" and have great "attention to detail" only to realize that their whole site is just a template from Monster Templates, or worse, a rip-off from another designer's website.

Eric,
definitely the x-height is your ace card. its ways too similar. the probability of a designer making that x-hieght almost identical to yours AND having the same style of characters is probably a trillion to 1</description>
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I agree with Jon, nothing gets under my skin more than when a designers website says something like they are extremely "ethical" and have great "attention to detail" only to realize that their whole site is just a template from Monster Templates, or worse, a rip-off from another designer's website.<br />
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Eric,<br />
definitely the x-height is your ace card. its ways too similar. the probability of a designer making that x-hieght almost identical to yours AND having the same style of characters is probably a trillion to 1</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.ideasonideas.com/2007/10/google-logo/#comment-9653</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ideasonideas.com/2007/10/google-logo/#comment-9653</guid>
		<description>I found one of my logos plagiarised last year after the piece had shown up on Digg in an article on Logo Design.

At first I was pretty pissed off...and then I resigned...and now I am a little flattered.

What pisses me off now is that idiots who would willingly plagiarise another designer's work for profit feel that they have any business in this business. While it's not uncommon to find companies (especially small ones) cribbing pretty heavily from successful designs, it's troubling that your examples are all supposed design professionals.

BTW - I totally think the searchMash logo is cribbed from yours. The X-Height and repeated syllable are too much of a coincidence.</description>
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I found one of my logos plagiarised last year after the piece had shown up on Digg in an article on Logo Design.<br />
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At first I was pretty pissed off...and then I resigned...and now I am a little flattered.<br />
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What pisses me off now is that idiots who would willingly plagiarise another designer's work for profit feel that they have any business in this business. While it's not uncommon to find companies (especially small ones) cribbing pretty heavily from successful designs, it's troubling that your examples are all supposed design professionals.<br />
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BTW - I totally think the searchMash logo is cribbed from yours. The X-Height and repeated syllable are too much of a coincidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Reeders</title>
		<link>http://www.ideasonideas.com/2007/10/google-logo/#comment-9652</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Reeders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 06:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ideasonideas.com/2007/10/google-logo/#comment-9652</guid>
		<description>The substance of your concern isn't that searchmash used a similar font, it's that they used a similar font with similar modifications to represent the same syllable in a LOGO.

Anyone who can't see how that's a problem probably shouldn't be reading this blog...</description>
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The substance of your concern isn't that searchmash used a similar font, it's that they used a similar font with similar modifications to represent the same syllable in a LOGO.<br />
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Anyone who can't see how that's a problem probably shouldn't be reading this blog...</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.ideasonideas.com/2007/10/google-logo/#comment-9651</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ideasonideas.com/2007/10/google-logo/#comment-9651</guid>
		<description>I am sure I saw very, very similar letter forms before you came up with your wordmark, but I would not go as far as implying you plagiarized them either.

The "violin master" website, of course, is a different thing altogether.</description>
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I am sure I saw very, very similar letter forms before you came up with your wordmark, but I would not go as far as implying you plagiarized them either.<br />
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The "violin master" website, of course, is a different thing altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: none</title>
		<link>http://www.ideasonideas.com/2007/10/google-logo/#comment-9650</link>
		<dc:creator>none</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ideasonideas.com/2007/10/google-logo/#comment-9650</guid>
		<description>honestly, it just really looks like a large version of the hooge font found on miniml.com</description>
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honestly, it just really looks like a large version of the hooge font found on miniml.com</p>
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		<title>By: Jess S.</title>
		<link>http://www.ideasonideas.com/2007/10/google-logo/#comment-9649</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 05:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ideasonideas.com/2007/10/google-logo/#comment-9649</guid>
		<description>Yep, tre, you're certainly right about the differences between patent/trademark and copyright infringement.

I definitely wasn't trying to imply that one might "lose ownership to that copyright..." My understanding, though, is that courts look to history of enforcement on infringement suits when rendering decisions.

Best,
J.</description>
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Yep, tre, you're certainly right about the differences between patent/trademark and copyright infringement.<br />
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I definitely wasn't trying to imply that one might "lose ownership to that copyright..." My understanding, though, is that courts look to history of enforcement on infringement suits when rendering decisions.<br />
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Best,<br />
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		<title>By: tre</title>
		<link>http://www.ideasonideas.com/2007/10/google-logo/#comment-9648</link>
		<dc:creator>tre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ideasonideas.com/2007/10/google-logo/#comment-9648</guid>
		<description>jess s.,

(disclaimer: i am not a lawyer, but here are my two bits anyway):

i believe what you are referring (in regards to actively defending your work) is trademark / patent law, not copyright.

the two are often confused. copyright is statutory and as erik remarked earlier, is attributed to the author as soon as a work is created. no statement of copyright is required; no court filing is required. the trick comes when an author seeks compensation for a violation of copyright law -- then you need proof (that can be a difficult task or some cases), but an author does not lose ownership to that copyright if they do not pursue legal action.

trademark / patent law, however, requires companies to actively seek out and protect those trademarks/patents through legal action. i am unsure why this is (but i know it is an integral part of the trademark / patent law) -- it's an unfortunate part of the law because it sends companies on ridiculous fishing expeditions (i.e. ludicrous patent suits for hyperlinking, docked palettes, embedding objects in web pages, etc.)

both laws are antiquated and definitely need revisiting -- but as far as i know, you don't lose your copyright if you don't pursue legal action.</description>
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jess s.,<br />
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(disclaimer: i am not a lawyer, but here are my two bits anyway):<br />
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i believe what you are referring (in regards to actively defending your work) is trademark / patent law, not copyright.<br />
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the two are often confused. copyright is statutory and as erik remarked earlier, is attributed to the author as soon as a work is created. no statement of copyright is required; no court filing is required. the trick comes when an author seeks compensation for a violation of copyright law -- then you need proof (that can be a difficult task or some cases), but an author does not lose ownership to that copyright if they do not pursue legal action.<br />
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trademark / patent law, however, requires companies to actively seek out and protect those trademarks/patents through legal action. i am unsure why this is (but i know it is an integral part of the trademark / patent law) -- it's an unfortunate part of the law because it sends companies on ridiculous fishing expeditions (i.e. ludicrous patent suits for hyperlinking, docked palettes, embedding objects in web pages, etc.)<br />
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both laws are antiquated and definitely need revisiting -- but as far as i know, you don't lose your copyright if you don't pursue legal action.</p>
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		<title>By: Dani Nordin</title>
		<link>http://www.ideasonideas.com/2007/10/google-logo/#comment-9621</link>
		<dc:creator>Dani Nordin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ideasonideas.com/2007/10/google-logo/#comment-9621</guid>
		<description>Man. Oh, man. Dude. Just. Dude.

I'm trying to find words, but I can't. I can't figure out if I want to laugh or scream.</description>
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Man. Oh, man. Dude. Just. Dude.<br />
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I'm trying to find words, but I can't. I can't figure out if I want to laugh or scream.</p>
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